UMI eMAX lollipop discussion

bencebacsi

casasjuan replied at 2015-10-16 23:59
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We already discussed a lot about this situation. And I didn't discussed only here, but personally with some UMI representatives. They said that, an unexpected expense occured that was requested to pay for the lollipop source code and (according to the sold amount of eMax) that's not worth the price. I told them that's not about one existing model, but the reputation of the whole company. Unfortunately they didn't show the sign of comprehension. Maybe that's a difference between the European and Chinese culture: good reputation is not a value there. I don't know.

holzi1991

Do they actually want to tell us that they were caught by surprise when Mediatek wanted money for its source code even if they are violating the GPL by doing that? These criminals are working like this for years now.

I guess they tried the cheap way (playing around with TCL M2 Lollipop), reached an impasse with it and are too stingy now to pay Mediatek and too lazy to sue them for violating the GPL.

Maybe they understand the importance of this update, if you tell them, that a real Android Lollipop would increase the sales of the Emax, which would result in money for these capitalists.

bencebacsi

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holzi1991 replied at 2015-10-17 02:21
Do they actually want to tell us that they were caught by surprise when Mediatek wanted money for it ...

This time the source code is held by TCL, the manufacturer of eMax. They (just like MediaTek) probably have found a legitimate way to ask for money. For example, they just want to be paid for their own development that doesn't contain google resources. However, the whole thing can not be separated. The factory already manufactures other models.

holzi1991

From what I read the Emax is basicly a rebranded TCL smartphone which unfortunately does run on Kitkat only, too.

For the licensing stuff, the GPL demands that nomatter how much you change the code you have to release the source Code when you release binaries. Mediatek is violating this part for years.

ec8or

it's not much but it's interesting.
http://labs.mediatek.com/forums/posts/list/393.page
it's about the mt6752

bencebacsi

holzi1991 replied at 2015-10-17 04:32
From what I read the Emax is basicly a rebranded TCL smartphone which unfortunately does run on Kitk ...

You've probably read this article but we don't know the hidden details of this case. Do you know about a google's lawsuit against MediaTek?

holzi1991

I read on multiple sites about GPL violations of Mediatek and other companies. Unfortunately I could not find anything about a lawsuit against Mediatek or someone else. There are so many people and companies that have contributed to the Linux kernel and which rights are violated by this behavior, but it seems neither Linus Torvald nor Google or someone else of  them is interested in doing something against it. Not even the free software foundation is doing something.

Well, I guess the only things we can do now, is playing around  with the partly working Lolipop from TCL UMI released.

bencebacsi

Then that's a question, why we should worry about this situation if not even the copyright holders care.
Hope I'll be able to get the other "beta", that has only a touch screen issue as UMI said.

holzi1991

You really believe that Beta does exist?

holzi1991

Do you really believe that Beta does exist? I would not count on that.