UMI eMAX lollipop discussion

bencebacsi

leodensian replied at 2015-9-29 18:00
Why has Umi not made an official announcement?  It's ok for them to pass on news via mods here but ...

They are still uncertain about the exact release date so don't have what to announce. These news pieces are only available because I requested them. I'm afraid UMI doesn't have hired employees for international customer support. I don't know what about them on the Chinese market. I'm just a user with mod rights here and I've got the contacts of some UMI team members. So I can ask them, nothing more.

martzweb

Bencebacsi .... I'm not holding you in the least bit responsible for the constantly moving goalposts but we are on day 5 of "released within the week" so i'm guessing UMI are messing us all around .... again.

If the touchscreen issue is the only thing holding up the release of Lollipop for these devices is it safe to assume that users who have not experienced the fault will continue to enjoy control of thier screen, or have UMI indicated that Lollipop exacerbates the situation?

I would be happy to try the build out on a "results may vary" basis just so I can have a little faith in UMI.  As it stands i'm sorely tempted to request a return from the vendor and be done with UMI as the issue is becoming more about honesty and transparency than technical challenges.

tothemax

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bencebacsi replied at 2015-9-29 07:05
Damn, my schizophrenia again!

No - it's MY shizophrenia - one of them anyway

tothemax

What I find curious is every phone released with 6753 seems to have 5.1 out of the box - is it something to do with quad-core or slower clock speed ? And  not sure ,  but aren't some 32 bit chips getting lollipop? So what is it that is facilitating it in these circumstances ,but seemingly posing a problem for 'some ' 6752 systems ? The only other impression I had was at the beginning of the year ,it seemed all the makers panicked and desperately released their 6752 phones -it was like they were scared to be left behind . So they all promised lollipop , but realising it has proved more difficult for some . And I could be be talking out of the back of my head completely ,but I seem to remember reading that it's more difficult on s 1080p screen than a 720p .(takes cover )

bencebacsi

MediaTek probably wants to sell their higher grade and more expensive MT6795 SoC, that much more powerful than the MT6752 on paper but produces hardly higher performance in real tests. So, they've simply replaced the MT6752 by the lower performance MT6753 (that has got the lollipop upgrade from MediaTek by providing the source code) in their portfolio to keep a bigger difference between the middle class and the high end. Therefore they simply try to kill the cheaper MT6752 architecture by refusing the requests for lollipop source codes. Lenovo and Meizu are some exceptions. Maybe they have special contracts with MediaTek or hire really skilled programmers who are able to develop lollipop firmwares without the needed source codes in hand.

tothemax

So it's a commercial exploit rather than a technical problem? Do you have the inside line on that or are you surmising- only asking as you sort of implied to dirtyjeans that lollipop would still be produced .

bencebacsi

tothemax replied at 2015-9-30 04:46
So it's a commercial exploit rather than a technical problem? Do you have the inside line on that or ...

We have no reason to treat this situation as a technical issue. I guess industrial corruption is also involved in this case. That can break this imagined policy of mediatek by some "smart" manufacturers. UMI is not a such one, so they'll lose a lot of customers.
Sorry, but I really can't understand the second half of your last sentence.

tothemax

\n\nDirtyjeans said lollipop would not happen , and you replied something like 'want to bet ;p ' ! As if you know it will for sure imminently

bencebacsi

tothemax replied at 2015-9-30 05:16
Edited by tothemax at 2015-9-30 05:19 \n\nDirtyjeans said lollipop would not happen , and you repli ...

I'm lost, sorry.

tothemax

You're such a tease.  Anyway it doesn't look promising, then?